Place 5 & 9 — What You Need to Know Before Betting

Place 5 and Place 9 pay 7:5 but carry a 4% house edge — nearly 3x worse than Place 6 and 8. Here's when it makes sense and when to skip them. Includes 50,000-roll simulation.

4.00%House Edge
7:5Payout
40%Win Rate
50kRolls Simulated

What Is the Place 5 & 9?

Place 5 and Place 9 are the middle-tier Place bets — better than 4 and 10, but significantly worse than 6 and 8. At 4% house edge they're often skipped by sharp players in favor of Place 6 & 8. But they have a place in strategies like $44 Inside and Iron Cross where coverage matters more than optimizing every individual bet.

📜 Casino LoreThe 5 and 9 occupy a strange middle ground in craps strategy circles. With four ways to roll each, they're the second most likely point numbers — but the 7:5 payout and 4% house edge put them in uncomfortable territory: too expensive to include in tight bankroll strategies, too common to ignore on hot tables. Old-school players called placing the 5 and 9 "rooting for the outside" — as opposed to the 6 and 8 dominating the inside numbers. The phrase "always bet in multiples of five" became one of craps's unwritten laws because the 7:5 payout breaks down to odd cents on any other chip denomination.

How It Works

Place 5 and 9 work like all Place bets — no come-out required, bet them during the point phase, and win if your number rolls before a 7.

They pay 7:5, so always bet in multiples of $5 ($5, $10, $15) to get full payout. A $10 Place 5 wins $14; a $9 Place 5 would only pay $12 (casino rounds).

Five has 4 ways to be rolled; 9 has 4 ways. The 7 has 6 ways. That 4-in-10 (40%) win probability is where the 4% house edge comes from — the true odds payout would be 6:4 (3:2), but the casino pays 7:5, keeping the difference.

50,000-Roll Simulation

Run the simulation below to see how the Place 5 & 9 performs across 50,000 dice rolls. Every run uses a fresh random seed — notice how individual sessions vary due to variance, while the long-run trend converges toward the theoretical house edge of 4.0%.

🎲 Place 5 & 9 Simulator
$10 flat bet · Monte Carlo · 50,000 rolls per run
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Hit Run Once to simulate 50,000 rolls of Place 5 & 9 betting.

Strategy & Tips

Place 5 and 9 are best used as part of a broader coverage strategy rather than in isolation. In the $44 Inside strategy they're part of covering all four inside numbers (5, 6, 8, 9). In Iron Cross, the 5 and 9 combine with 6, 8 and the Field to cover every number except 7.

If you want to bet 5 or 9 specifically, consider whether a Come bet with Odds (1.41% dropping to 0.37%) might be a better vehicle for getting on those numbers — especially since Come bets can be backed with true-odds Odds.

How It Compares

BetHouse EdgePayoutNotes
Place 5 & 94.0%This page
Pass Line + Max Odds0.37%VariesLowest combined edge
Don't Pass + Lay Odds0.27%VariesLowest edge overall
Pass Line1.41%1:1Best flat bet
Place 6 or 81.52%7:6Best place bet
Field Bet2.78–5.56%1:1/2:1High action
Any 716.67%4:1Avoid

FAQ

Why is Place 5/9 worse than Place 6/8?
Fewer ways to roll (4 vs 5), higher edge (4% vs 1.52%). The 7:5 payout doesn't compensate enough for the worse probability.
Should I ever bet Place 5 and 9?
In coverage strategies (Iron Cross, $44 Inside) where you need all inside numbers, yes. In isolation, a Come bet with Odds is usually better.
What's the minimum bet for full payout?
$5 — bet in multiples of $5. A $5 Place 5 or 9 pays $7.
Can Place 5/9 bets be turned off?
Yes — like all Place bets, you can turn them off or take them down at any time.

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