Lay Bets — Betting Against the Number

A Lay bet is a standalone wager that the 7 shows before a specific point number. You're the favorite — the 7 is always the most likely roll — but you stake more than you win. House edge runs 2.44–4.0% depending on the number, and you can take the bet down any time.

2.44%Edge (Lay 4/10)
3.23%Edge (Lay 5/9)
4.0%Edge (Lay 6/8)
5% vigOn the Win

What Is a Lay Bet?

A Lay bet is the mirror image of a Place bet. Instead of betting that a specific number rolls before the 7, you bet that the 7 rolls before a specific number. You pick any point number — 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, or 10 — and win when the 7 shows. The number hitting first means you lose.

Because the 7 has more ways to roll than any other number, you're mathematically favored on every Lay bet. The casino compensates by collecting a 5% commission (called the vig) on your potential winnings. That vig is what creates the house edge.

Lay bets are standing bets — they stay active roll after roll until a 7 or the target number hits, or until you take them down. Unlike Don't Come bets, they're completely independent and don't go through a come-out phase.

📜 Casino LoreLay bets occupy a strange status on the casino floor. In theory they're among the smarter bets at the table, but they've always attracted suspicion. Because you're rooting for the 7 — the same outcome that wipes out most of the table — Lay bettors are lumped in with Don't Pass players as "wrong bettors." Early Nevada casinos in the 1950s were reluctant to spread Lay bets prominently, since a crowded Lay-betting table created an odd social dynamic: the more players betting against numbers, the more tension with Pass Line regulars celebrating every non-7 roll. Most casinos today keep the Lay bet as a dealer-placed bet that you request verbally, rather than a clearly marked area you can reach yourself — a subtle way of keeping it off casual players' radar.

Payouts & Vig by Number

Every Lay bet pays at true odds — but minus a 5% vig on the win amount. The table below shows exactly what you risk, what you win, and what the vig costs on a standard $40 lay:

NumberWays to Win (7)Ways to LoseTrue OddsLay $40 → WinVigNet WinHouse Edge
4 or 10631:2$20$1$192.44%
5 or 9642:3$26.67$1.33$25.343.23%
6 or 8655:6$33.33$1.67$31.664.0%
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Vig is on the win, not the wager. You pay 5% of what you stand to collect, not 5% of what you put up. On a Lay 4, you risk $40 to win $20, and the vig is $1 (5% of $20) — not $2. This matters: it's better than a flat vig on the total stake.

Most casinos collect the vig upfront when you place the bet. A handful collect only on a win. If your casino takes vig only on wins, the house edge drops slightly — Lay 4/10 becomes 1.67%. Always ask the dealer which method the table uses.

How It Works at the Table

Lay bets are dealer-placed — you don't put chips on the layout yourself. Instead, toss your chips to the dealer and announce the number you want to Lay: "Lay the four, please" or "Give me a lay on the nine." The dealer will position your chips in the number box with a button indicating it's a Lay bet, and collect the vig from your stack.

Lay bets are always working — including on the come-out roll. If a 7 shows during the come-out, your Lay bet wins. This is the opposite of Place bets, which are typically off on come-out. If you don't want your Lay active during come-out, tell the dealer "lay bets off."

You can call your Lay bet down at any time — before or after the shooter establishes a point. Say "take me down on the eight" and the dealer returns your chips plus any vig collected (if your casino takes vig upfront).

For the full sequence of how bets are handled at the table, see the Table Flow guide.

50,000-Roll Simulation

The simulation runs Lay 4/10 — the best Lay bet by house edge (2.44%). Each decision resolves when either a 7 or the target number rolls; all other rolls are ignored. Because the 7 wins roughly two-thirds of decisions, you'll see a high win rate but small individual wins relative to risk.

Lay 4 & 10 (2.44%)
Lay 5 & 9 (3.23%)
Lay 6 & 8 (4.0%)
🎲 Lay Bets Simulator
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Strategy & When to Use Them

Lay 4 and 10 First

If you're going to Lay any number, start with 4 and 10. The 2.44% house edge is the lowest of any Lay bet and competitive with Pass Line flat (1.41%) once you consider that Lay 4/10 has a higher win rate per decision. The 4 and 10 each have only three ways to roll — making the 7 a two-to-one favorite — so you win more often than you lose, even if the amounts are asymmetric.

Pairing with Don't Pass

Lay bets work well alongside Don't Pass when the shooter has established a point you don't want to Lay Odds on. For example: if the point is 8 and you don't want to expose Lay Odds on 8 (4.0% edge), you can add a standalone Lay 4 instead to diversify your dark-side coverage.

Using the Removability Advantage

One of Lay bets' genuine advantages over Don't Come bets is that they can always be taken down. A Don't Come bet, once it travels to a number box, is locked in — you can remove it, but it's considered bad form, and the table expects you to leave it working. Lay bets carry no such expectation. If you've read the table as cooling down, you can pull your Lays cleanly with no social friction.

Avoid Lay 6 and 8

The 4.0% edge on Lay 6 and 8 is the worst of the Lay bet family. You're still mathematically favored to win individual bets (the 7 has six ways vs. five for 6 or 8), but the vig eats into thin margins. If you want exposure against 6 and 8, Don't Pass Lay Odds attached to those specific points has zero edge on the odds portion — a much better approach when you can set it up that way.

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Lay bets are not zero-edge. They're often described as "the best bets on the table" by recreational players because the win rate feels high. But the vig ensures every single number carries a positive house edge. The most edge-efficient dark side play remains Don't Pass + Lay Odds at 0.27%.

Lay vs. Other Dark Side Bets

BetHouse EdgeStandalone?Removable?Notes
Don't Pass + Lay Odds0.27%NoOdds yes, flat noLowest edge overall
Don't Pass flat1.36%Yes (come-out)No (after point)Best flat dark side bet
Don't Come flat1.36%Yes (mid-hand)Yes (unusual)Mid-hand Don't Pass equivalent
Lay 4 or 102.44%YesYesBest standalone Lay bet
Lay 5 or 93.23%YesYesMid-tier Lay
Lay 6 or 84.0%YesYesWeakest Lay — avoid if possible
Doey-Don't2.78%YesPartialHedges come-out, loads odds

The key practical difference between Lay bets and Don't Pass/Don't Come: Lay bets require no come-out phase. You can place a Lay 10 mid-point without having survived a Don't Pass come-out. That flexibility has a cost — the vig — but it means you can target specific numbers immediately.

FAQ

What is the house edge on Lay bets?
Lay 4 and 10: 2.44%. Lay 5 and 9: 3.23%. Lay 6 and 8: 4.0%. The vig is always 5% of the potential win, not the amount wagered — which is slightly more favorable than it sounds.
Can I remove a Lay bet?
Yes. Unlike Pass Line or Come bets, Lay bets can be taken down or turned off at any time. This is one of their key practical advantages — there's no social expectation to keep them working like there is with Don't Come bets.
How is a Lay bet different from Don't Pass Lay Odds?
Don't Pass Lay Odds are attached to a Don't Pass bet — they can only exist once you've bet the Don't Pass and survived the come-out to establish a point. Lay bets are standalone: you pick any number and bet against it mid-point with no line bet required. The tradeoff is the vig: Lay Odds have zero house edge; standalone Lay bets do not.
Why do I put up more than I win on a Lay bet?
Because the 7 is more likely than any point number — you're the mathematical favorite. In even odds betting the favorite always risks more than they stand to win. A Lay 4 pays $1 for every $2 risked because the 7 has twice as many ways to roll as the 4. That ratio is exactly correct mathematically; the vig is what creates the house edge on top of it.

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